Jim and I have technically done more writing together than either of us have with Casey. When Casey left Force That Binds, Jim and I continued on with another singer (and eventually yet another), and the two of us still wrote the songs musically-speaking. When FTB finally folded, we went on to another band together (called Solidify) where we also wrote the music together. In the post Solidify days, the two of us have spent time writing for our “Audio Challenge” projects (maybe one of us will explain that in more detail in a later post), and we spent time re-working and in some ways re-writing a lot of our old FTB songs together.
But as I’ve said in the past, the two of us have always agreed that our best writing that we’ve ever done is when we’ve written with Casey. We work better as a trio than we do as a duo.
One of the biggest reasons for that, in my opinion, is that Casey always pushed us to come up with more parts, more change-ups, more dynamics. A good number of our songs from the early FTB days had characteristics that set them apart from all of the other songs, other than the obvious chord progression, tempo, and melody. Some songs would have tempo changes. Some songs would break away from the typical verse-chorus-verse-chorus patterns. Some songs had lyrical bridges. Some songs had musical break downs or interludes. Some songs had intros that were completely separate from the other musical parts. Some songs had outtros that were separate parts. Some songs had keyboard parts through the whole song. Some songs had keyboard parts in only small sections. Some didn’t have keys at all.
Toward the end of Casey’s time in FTB, Jim and I discovered the amazing world of digital recording, and we started writing song ideas individually instead of collectively, mainly because of the ease of plugging into a device and hitting “record” during our own free time. As we started to do that, our songs became much more simplistic in structure and arrangement. I won’t speak for Jim, but in my case it was probably because I was so excited to write “songs” that I just wanted to get one done and move onto the next. Unfortunately that was forming a bad habit for me (and if I can be so bold, probably Jim, too). When Casey left the band, we continued writing in this way, and pretty much all of the post-Casey FTB or Solidify songs (with a small handful of exceptions) where much more basic verse-chorus-verse-chorus style songs.
When BHP started getting together again, I’d present song ideas, and typically they’d have two different sections, and Casey’s first comment was typically “I have some ideas for some more parts”. I never told him this, but I usually thought something along the lines of “Can’t we just put vocals to this and call it done?!?” But, over time it started becoming really obvious that our songs were becoming much more solid, and much more interesting.
Don’t get me wrong… sometimes simple songs with 2 parts can still come out great. For example, one of our songs on the RPM challenge disc (Fallen They Be) was called “My Offering”, and it’s a simple 2-part song that Jim and Casey wrote, and it’s probably one of the best songs on the entire album.
But for the most part I find myself drawn to having much more complex pieces. Having songs with intros, pre-choruses, interludes, a guitar solo over a unique progression, key changes, tempo changes, etc, etc, etc.
On a related side-note, I’ve been on a Metallica kick lately. I’ve always liked Metallica, but for some reason over the past couple weeks, or maybe even months (time gets away from me so fast these days) I’ve been hooked on them more than usual. “Death Magnetic” is such a great album, and I’m really really intrigued by all of the different parts that each song has, and how the band managed to blend them so seamlessly. I’ve been reading interviews and watching some behind-the-scenes type things, and Metallica’s favored way to write is that they jam on a bunch of different riffs (both separately and collectively as a band), then they take those riffs and chop them up and figure out how they all tie together. It’s an interesting way to put together a song.
Jim and I did something similar on a song called Starlight that will be on our next CD (finished at the end of June). Jim had a great guitar riff from years ago that we have never really used. He figured out how to play it again, and then he and I turned on a drum loop and started jamming on parts in that same key. The next day I pieced together the different parts we created into a song, and it ended up being a very dynamic very interesting piece.
I’ve been doing that in my own writing time lately… instead of just trying to write a verse and a chorus and calling a song idea done, I start up a drum machine, pick my key, and start coming up with riffs. I try to lay down 5 or 6 different parts at least, then later I’ll come back and see how I think they might fit together. Some parts end up being thrown out, and some end up sparking ideas for new parts, but it’s a creative way to put songs together, and it’s leading me in directions that I would’ve never gone if I had maintained my old habit of sitting down and trying to create an entire song from start to finish.